Spark plug blown out. by Bernard

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Bernard
Sudden noise and smell of fuel caused me quite a scare. :shock:

Got the car recovered and ordered a thread insert kit today. Luckily it's No 3 so at the front. Should be good fun tomorrow, hmm I don't think so. :(

Strangely I had been looking at repair kits because this seems to be a common problem with the V8 engine and I thought that it's bound to happen to mine. I didn't expect the V6 to do it and I don't think that I have heard of it with the V6.

I will update this tomorrow with the results.
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Posted 12 Jun 2013, 13:09 #1 


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First v6 I have heard of.

Posted 12 Jun 2013, 16:31 #2 

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kandyman
Not heard of this happening before.:-?
Good luck tomorrow and let us know how you got on and any hints/tips if any members have to do this job.
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Posted 12 Jun 2013, 16:33 #3 

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Borg Warner
I was corrected for calling the odd bank the front of the engine? Apparently the odd is on the left and evens are on the right?

Anyway sounds an odd one Bernard no additional damage I take it and at least being at the front, easy to get to.

Gary M

Posted 12 Jun 2013, 16:51 #4 

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Mintman
Hi Bernard

Gert(you know him) had the same strange adventure a year ago on his V6.The main problem afterwards .... to get the remaining screwed part of the spark plug out :mad1:

Posted 14 Jun 2013, 23:45 #5 

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Bernard
Yeah Gary, quite right. I just find it more convenient to regard the front of the car as the reference.

Frank, it sounds as if that was a different problem, mine had blown out completely.

Anyway, to get back to the solution. I decided that it was too big a job to remove the head and that it could be quite safely done in situ. I had purchased this progressive tap-

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and some inserts of which we chose the right length.-

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We had an investigation with a bore scope to see what state everything was in and turned the engine over to make sure that the piston would not be in the way of the quite lengthy tap.

The big problem is that one cannot see so far down the hole to see what is going on, so with a big breath and a liberal application of grease on the tap to catch the swarf, we wound in the tap a few turns until it was hard going. Then the tap was withdrawn, cleaned, regreased and wound back into the hole.

Now, because of the progressive nature of the tap, with increasing diameter of the cutting edges, it is important to go deep enough to ensure that the insert will screw in to its full depth. There is only one shot at this, it's not possible to unscrew the insert once it's in position.

The big danger on our minds was that we would screw it too far and the tap would drop into the bore. So the in and out, clean and regrease procedure was carried out many times and we counted the turns to make sure that we had gone far enough.

Another inspection with the bore scope showed negligible debris and no big bits of swarf on top of the piston. To be sure, we started the engine for a second and any bits were blown out of the spark plug hole. It's only aluminium debris anyway so anything left will most likely get blown through the engine.

Now was the point of no return.

With some thread lock applied to the outer diameter of the insert it was screwed onto the plug and then wound into the head quite firmly. We left it for a few minutes while cups of tea were enjoyed and then wound the plug out. Very relieved we were to find the insert fitting perfectly in the hole.

Plug replaced, a new pencil coil connected and - moment of truth- fired up with no problem and no sound of leak-by.

Why did it happen?

I can only think that I had not tightened the plug sufficiently when I changed them. I most certainly did not over tighten them and I am the only one to ever change the plugs. (Very expensive special LPG (Liquified Petroleum Gas) plugs they are too.)

A quick check of the other plugs showed that they were tight enough, so mind put at rest. Anyway, I have enough inserts to do this again, probably on the V8 as they are susceptible to blowing out.
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Posted 17 Jun 2013, 17:29 #6 

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takestock
Quality work Mr B, never let me loose with one of those progressive taps, I am certain i would end up fishing it out of the cyl no doubt :D :D
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Posted 17 Jun 2013, 19:15 #7 

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Mintman
@Bernard

You're right(as nearly always :lol:)
It seemed that in Gert's misadventure the plug was badly manufactured , so deficiencies during construction ,although only one plug failed the whole batch was sended back to the manufacturer.

Posted 18 Jun 2013, 18:47 #8 


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